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	<title>Comments on: Is an Abramovich-type buy out the only way to cope?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Rob. Chelsea were doing &quot;Leeds&quot; in Batesy&#039;s era. But things are changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Rob. Chelsea were doing &#8220;Leeds&#8221; in Batesy&#8217;s era. But things are changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 16:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money is undoubtedly important. Cannot be overlooked. I&#039;m not convinced, though, that it&#039;s ruining the game.

In the case of English dominance, I see club-quality &amp; management having equal influence. Even now you see that Dynasies like AC Milan have uneven years.

I think we will see the money clubs always contending, but it does not rule out another Porto, or Fenerbahça from going even further one year or the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is undoubtedly important. Cannot be overlooked. I&#8217;m not convinced, though, that it&#8217;s ruining the game.</p>
<p>In the case of English dominance, I see club-quality &amp; management having equal influence. Even now you see that Dynasies like AC Milan have uneven years.</p>
<p>I think we will see the money clubs always contending, but it does not rule out another Porto, or Fenerbahça from going even further one year or the next.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did love the Monaco/Porto final. Though I wanted the French side to win.

Adam, you mention that 50% of the money spent by Chelsea is from Roman&#039;s pockets, but you forget that without his initial investment they wouldn&#039;t have theother 50% to spend either. They were hardly rich in the Bates eta. Its all his, because he completely owns the club.

I didn&#039;t mention Real or Barca. Real have an awful club image if you ask me - probably why half of spain detests them while the other loves them. Its the arrogance of champions, which also shows in Liverpool, or in Turin at Juventus. Man United have undoubtedly got some in the last 15 or so years too.

Barca have a &#039;More than a club&#039; image, where they represent Catalonia and a slightly political, rebelious vaguely leftist position as a hangover from the Franco days. They also have the reputation of playing beautiful football, as a hangover from the Cruyff days. They have a strong image, but the reason I didn&#039;t mention Spanish clubs is because they aren&#039;t bought and sold in quite the same way with the presidential elections.

Of course there will always be upsets, but will they get less often if the CL becomes a playground of the very rich? Time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did love the Monaco/Porto final. Though I wanted the French side to win.</p>
<p>Adam, you mention that 50% of the money spent by Chelsea is from Roman&#8217;s pockets, but you forget that without his initial investment they wouldn&#8217;t have theother 50% to spend either. They were hardly rich in the Bates eta. Its all his, because he completely owns the club.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mention Real or Barca. Real have an awful club image if you ask me &#8211; probably why half of spain detests them while the other loves them. Its the arrogance of champions, which also shows in Liverpool, or in Turin at Juventus. Man United have undoubtedly got some in the last 15 or so years too.</p>
<p>Barca have a &#8216;More than a club&#8217; image, where they represent Catalonia and a slightly political, rebelious vaguely leftist position as a hangover from the Franco days. They also have the reputation of playing beautiful football, as a hangover from the Cruyff days. They have a strong image, but the reason I didn&#8217;t mention Spanish clubs is because they aren&#8217;t bought and sold in quite the same way with the presidential elections.</p>
<p>Of course there will always be upsets, but will they get less often if the CL becomes a playground of the very rich? Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 04:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you forget to mention clubs like Real Madrid who are doing this for decades. So is Barca. Wasn&#039;t Maradona&#039;s transfer the most expensive in that decade? Manchester Utd in last 15 years. Even Roma under Capello. If my memory serves right Capello was given huge transfer budget in 2000. The key difference is all these clubs used the money generated from footballing means. Atleast 80% of money was from footballing means. For Chelsea its 50% from Roman&#039;s chequebook. But he is not stupid to pour money for fun. Chelsea&#039;s turnover 4th highest in the world (in terms of football clubs). Every year their revenues as well as profit margins are improving. 

As far as smaller clubs winning CL. Porto won the CL when Real Madrid had squad full of galacticos. Porto beat Man Utd when Man Utd&#039;s squad budget was 10 times than that of Porto. That year all the 4 clubs in CL were underdogs. Monaco had beaten Real Madrid. Porto had beaten Man Utd. Chelsea had beaten Arsenal. Depo had beaten Milan (4-0). And all these beaten clubs had superstar players. Still they got defeat. This means it doesn&#039;t matter how many superstars you have. If you play like a team then you can beat anyone. And yes this year Fenerbahce defeated Chelsea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you forget to mention clubs like Real Madrid who are doing this for decades. So is Barca. Wasn&#8217;t Maradona&#8217;s transfer the most expensive in that decade? Manchester Utd in last 15 years. Even Roma under Capello. If my memory serves right Capello was given huge transfer budget in 2000. The key difference is all these clubs used the money generated from footballing means. Atleast 80% of money was from footballing means. For Chelsea its 50% from Roman&#8217;s chequebook. But he is not stupid to pour money for fun. Chelsea&#8217;s turnover 4th highest in the world (in terms of football clubs). Every year their revenues as well as profit margins are improving. </p>
<p>As far as smaller clubs winning CL. Porto won the CL when Real Madrid had squad full of galacticos. Porto beat Man Utd when Man Utd&#8217;s squad budget was 10 times than that of Porto. That year all the 4 clubs in CL were underdogs. Monaco had beaten Real Madrid. Porto had beaten Man Utd. Chelsea had beaten Arsenal. Depo had beaten Milan (4-0). And all these beaten clubs had superstar players. Still they got defeat. This means it doesn&#8217;t matter how many superstars you have. If you play like a team then you can beat anyone. And yes this year Fenerbahce defeated Chelsea.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 23:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inara - Its only a matter of time before they run out of profitable prem clubs and buy out anyone else in the CL though isn&#039;t it?

areallatichasanyonetoldyouuournameistoolong - I was critical of both the sacking of Ranieri and Jose, but you can&#039;t argue that Jose did a better job than Ranieri, and Grant has done an amazing job taking the reigns from Jose. He has in fact scored more points in the EPL than Alex Ferguson since his appointment.

Matt - I&#039;ll always throw in an Ajax shout out when I can. I rather like them, and Johan Cruyff is something of a hero to me. I did a profile of him here somehwere. But yeah I agree about Roma. They&#039;ve become one of my favourite clubs, I&#039;m not sure that would stay even with more success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inara &#8211; Its only a matter of time before they run out of profitable prem clubs and buy out anyone else in the CL though isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>areallatichasanyonetoldyouuournameistoolong &#8211; I was critical of both the sacking of Ranieri and Jose, but you can&#8217;t argue that Jose did a better job than Ranieri, and Grant has done an amazing job taking the reigns from Jose. He has in fact scored more points in the EPL than Alex Ferguson since his appointment.</p>
<p>Matt &#8211; I&#8217;ll always throw in an Ajax shout out when I can. I rather like them, and Johan Cruyff is something of a hero to me. I did a profile of him here somehwere. But yeah I agree about Roma. They&#8217;ve become one of my favourite clubs, I&#8217;m not sure that would stay even with more success.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 21:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the Ajax shout-out.  And I agree.  I love Roma because they are Roma: Totti, De Rossi, what Aquilani and Curci may become, the Sud, etc.  If they go out and buy Amauri or Mario Gomez and 3 or 4 other top-dollar guys, I will probably still cheer for them for a season or two.  But then they will become just another &quot;big club&quot;, and I will wonder why I even bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Ajax shout-out.  And I agree.  I love Roma because they are Roma: Totti, De Rossi, what Aquilani and Curci may become, the Sud, etc.  If they go out and buy Amauri or Mario Gomez and 3 or 4 other top-dollar guys, I will probably still cheer for them for a season or two.  But then they will become just another &#8220;big club&#8221;, and I will wonder why I even bother.</p>
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		<title>By: areallaticfromthesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>areallaticfromthesouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 17:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inara. You are quite right. Clubs should be self-supporting. There is too much money in the game especially in the Premiership. Ranieri and Mourinho suffered under Mr A and now look what is happening to Eriksson with City&#039;s Thailand&#039;s owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inara. You are quite right. Clubs should be self-supporting. There is too much money in the game especially in the Premiership. Ranieri and Mourinho suffered under Mr A and now look what is happening to Eriksson with City&#8217;s Thailand&#8217;s owner.</p>
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		<title>By: Inara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m against mega rich owners. A club should be self supporting and not dependent on just one guy&#039;s pocketbooks. It balances the playing field a lot more since billionaire owners are only interested in clubs that would reap profits (ie ones in England).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m against mega rich owners. A club should be self supporting and not dependent on just one guy&#8217;s pocketbooks. It balances the playing field a lot more since billionaire owners are only interested in clubs that would reap profits (ie ones in England).</p>
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